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	<title>Comments on: How to help build the UK&#8217;s open planning database: writing scrapers</title>
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	<description>Open data and all that</description>
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		<title>By: Andrew</title>
		<link>http://countculture.wordpress.com/2012/03/29/how-to-help-build-the-uks-open-planning-database-writing-scrapers/#comment-1067</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Andrew]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Sep 2012 18:43:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[In the meantime you can get access to New Forest District and National Park applications via my map interface here https://views.scraperwiki.com/run/planning_map/?db=South+East.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In the meantime you can get access to New Forest District and National Park applications via my map interface here <a href="https://views.scraperwiki.com/run/planning_map/?db=South+East" rel="nofollow">https://views.scraperwiki.com/run/planning_map/?db=South+East</a>.</p>
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		<title>By: countculture</title>
		<link>http://countculture.wordpress.com/2012/03/29/how-to-help-build-the-uks-open-planning-database-writing-scrapers/#comment-1065</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[countculture]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Sep 2012 15:01:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Not yet. We haven&#039;t ruled it out, but want to get the councils tackled first.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Not yet. We haven&#8217;t ruled it out, but want to get the councils tackled first.</p>
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		<title>By: Chunter</title>
		<link>http://countculture.wordpress.com/2012/03/29/how-to-help-build-the-uks-open-planning-database-writing-scrapers/#comment-1064</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Chunter]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Sep 2012 04:26:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Are there any plans to include, for example, the New Forest National Park Authority? The &#039;New Forest&#039; site now being scraped is the district council&#039;s.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Are there any plans to include, for example, the New Forest National Park Authority? The &#8216;New Forest&#8217; site now being scraped is the district council&#8217;s.</p>
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		<title>By: Andrew</title>
		<link>http://countculture.wordpress.com/2012/03/29/how-to-help-build-the-uks-open-planning-database-writing-scrapers/#comment-1062</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Andrew]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Aug 2012 17:21:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hi - Stoke on Trent planning applications are (at last) being scraped onto Openly Local

Here&#039;s the link

http://openlylocal.com/councils/96/planning_applications]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi &#8211; Stoke on Trent planning applications are (at last) being scraped onto Openly Local</p>
<p>Here&#8217;s the link</p>
<p><a href="http://openlylocal.com/councils/96/planning_applications" rel="nofollow">http://openlylocal.com/councils/96/planning_applications</a></p>
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		<title>By: James Berry</title>
		<link>http://countculture.wordpress.com/2012/03/29/how-to-help-build-the-uks-open-planning-database-writing-scrapers/#comment-1061</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[James Berry]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Aug 2012 11:17:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Spectacular!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Spectacular!</p>
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		<title>By: Andrew</title>
		<link>http://countculture.wordpress.com/2012/03/29/how-to-help-build-the-uks-open-planning-database-writing-scrapers/#comment-1060</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Andrew]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Aug 2012 09:39:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Sorry for the delay - but at last Canterbury planning applications are now active on Openly Local

Here&#039;s the link:

http://openlylocal.com/councils/48/planning_applications]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry for the delay &#8211; but at last Canterbury planning applications are now active on Openly Local</p>
<p>Here&#8217;s the link:</p>
<p><a href="http://openlylocal.com/councils/48/planning_applications" rel="nofollow">http://openlylocal.com/councils/48/planning_applications</a></p>
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		<title>By: Andrew</title>
		<link>http://countculture.wordpress.com/2012/03/29/how-to-help-build-the-uks-open-planning-database-writing-scrapers/#comment-1042</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Andrew]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 May 2012 06:39:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Sorry James we are still doing preparatory work on the AcolNet implementation

In the meanwhile if you want basic information on the most recent Canterbury applications then they are available via this scraperwiki interface:

https://views.scraperwiki.com/run/planning_map/?db=South+East&amp;auth=Canterbury&amp;max=200

Similarly Stoke on Trent applications are here:

https://views.scraperwiki.com/run/planning_map/?db=West+Midlands&amp;auth=Stoke+on+Trent&amp;max=200]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry James we are still doing preparatory work on the AcolNet implementation</p>
<p>In the meanwhile if you want basic information on the most recent Canterbury applications then they are available via this scraperwiki interface:</p>
<p><a href="https://views.scraperwiki.com/run/planning_map/?db=South+East&#038;auth=Canterbury&#038;max=200" rel="nofollow">https://views.scraperwiki.com/run/planning_map/?db=South+East&#038;auth=Canterbury&#038;max=200</a></p>
<p>Similarly Stoke on Trent applications are here:</p>
<p><a href="https://views.scraperwiki.com/run/planning_map/?db=West+Midlands&#038;auth=Stoke+on+Trent&#038;max=200" rel="nofollow">https://views.scraperwiki.com/run/planning_map/?db=West+Midlands&#038;auth=Stoke+on+Trent&#038;max=200</a></p>
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		<title>By: James Berry</title>
		<link>http://countculture.wordpress.com/2012/03/29/how-to-help-build-the-uks-open-planning-database-writing-scrapers/#comment-1040</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[James Berry]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 May 2012 09:36:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#039;ll leave it to you guys to do it internally then - any progress?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ll leave it to you guys to do it internally then &#8211; any progress?</p>
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		<title>By: adamjennison111</title>
		<link>http://countculture.wordpress.com/2012/03/29/how-to-help-build-the-uks-open-planning-database-writing-scrapers/#comment-1029</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[adamjennison111]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 May 2012 10:15:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thanks Andrew, it was after posting that I RTFM and spotted the spreadsheet..!
:-)
I ask because I work in Hull City Council and am looking at Open Data.

I find it incredulous that the planning systems that are open, such as our&#039;s and our neighbors - the East Riding of Yorkshire, are so poor when it comes to providing data that is machine readable. Not even an RSS feed!??

I am looking to wrap some our systems in APIs that can provide data in better format, and in this case I would suggest even a little, with a link to the systems content, will be better than nothing.

I started to write a scraper for the IDOx system (open scraper wiki) as I want to create a hyperlocal blog but found the Openlocaly site and paused to see what was happening.

I would rather that the data, which is already in the public sphere, be open for all - not just eyes! 

I am looking to use persistent URIs and a datastore to hold the information, but we are in the early stages of planning our OpenData thoughts.. so any comments are greedily accepted, it would be good to be led by developer needs rather than some internal &#039;direction&#039;.. 
:-)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Andrew, it was after posting that I RTFM and spotted the spreadsheet..! <img src='http://s0.wp.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /><br />
I ask because I work in Hull City Council and am looking at Open Data.</p>
<p>I find it incredulous that the planning systems that are open, such as our&#8217;s and our neighbors &#8211; the East Riding of Yorkshire, are so poor when it comes to providing data that is machine readable. Not even an RSS feed!??</p>
<p>I am looking to wrap some our systems in APIs that can provide data in better format, and in this case I would suggest even a little, with a link to the systems content, will be better than nothing.</p>
<p>I started to write a scraper for the IDOx system (open scraper wiki) as I want to create a hyperlocal blog but found the Openlocaly site and paused to see what was happening.</p>
<p>I would rather that the data, which is already in the public sphere, be open for all &#8211; not just eyes! </p>
<p>I am looking to use persistent URIs and a datastore to hold the information, but we are in the early stages of planning our OpenData thoughts.. so any comments are greedily accepted, it would be good to be led by developer needs rather than some internal &#8216;direction&#8217;..  <img src='http://s0.wp.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Andrew</title>
		<link>http://countculture.wordpress.com/2012/03/29/how-to-help-build-the-uks-open-planning-database-writing-scrapers/#comment-1028</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Andrew]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 May 2012 08:11:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Stoke on Trent is also an AcolNet system so it&#039;s one of more than 30 similar UK systems we have to crack. and the comments above about Canterbury apply here too.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Stoke on Trent is also an AcolNet system so it&#8217;s one of more than 30 similar UK systems we have to crack. and the comments above about Canterbury apply here too.</p>
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